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Class back in the news

The term "middle class " implies that there is a lower class. It divides the working class , the 99% , against itself. The poor _are_ working class ! The Lower class , which the middle class have been impliedly dogging out all these years by distinguishing themselves as middle class _above_ the lower class. The “middle” class income is a thousand times closer to lower class income than upper class income ( 1%) . It’s not really in the middle as in half way in between . It’s much , much closer to the bottom than the top . Middle and Lower are both part of 99% of the population; upper is 1% population. Lower and Middle , unite ! Defeat the Upper class 99% vs 1% , We r the 99% ! We r the 99% , the Working Class ! , wage-laborers , the People . If We become conscious of that We can win every election . Problem is half of us are braindead / class UNconscious/ class traitors - the 73 million Republican voters are class brain dead . The poor are working class just as much as the middle class Black people are working class just as much as Midwest industrial workers . Middle Class and Lower Class unite and vote out the Upper Class’s Republican Party . However, the use of "class" at all in the mainstream discourse is an advance over the last 60 years in the US, so, with that historic context, the technical incorrectness of "middle class" is not correctly raised at this point in the progress of the US working class' class consciousness. The Occupy WallStreet terminology of 1% vs 99% is not technically correct either, as it refers to income instead of relationship to the means of production, but it is a glorious propaganda advance for the US working class at this time in history that it is so popularized CB

On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Jim Farmelant wrote:

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'The middle class' is an oxymoron Jacek@amu.edu.pl Jacek Tittenbrun Apart from anti-worker attitudes and feelings, that Detroit piece demonstrates yet another truth. This is commonly overlooked, but the concept of middle class makes no sense at all. In this case this is apparent because it has been applied to the working class. So, is a GM machinist member of the working or middle class? He cannot be both. What hides behind this puzzle is the fact that the term 'the middle class' is drawn from the stratification rather than class vernacular. Middle, upper, lower classes are terms pertaining to stratification, for it is the latter only that is inherently hierarchical; by contrast, class structures are more complex sets of interrelationships. The petty bourgeois clas, for instance, may be in some respects 'higher', that is, privileged in relation to the working class, but this does not necessarily concerns some other things, e.g. income; an artisan may well be poorer than "the affluent worker" [such was even the title of once famous Lockwood's book on the subject]. There are many more important differences between stratification and class; strata are universal [in time and space], classes emerged only at some stage of historical development and, in theory, may disappear in the future, whereas income, lifestyle, and other suchlike distinctions would not. In a word, the word 'class' in juxtaposition with the word 'middle', or 'upper and 'lower', for that matter is an oxymoron. And politically and ideologically harmful at that.

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However, the use of "class" at all in the mainstream discourse is an advance over the last 60 years in the US, so, with that historic context, the technical incorrectness of "middle class" is not correctly raised at this point in the progress of the US working class' class consciousness. The Occupy WallStreet terminology of 1% vs 99% is not technically correct either, as it refers to income instead of relationship to the means of production, but it is a glorious propaganda advance for the US working class at this time in history that it is so popularized CB

On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Jim Farmelant wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 9:16 AM Subject: Re: Marxism-Thaxis Digest, Vol 118, Issue 6 'The middle class' is an oxymoron Jacek@amu.edu.pl Jacek Tittenbrun Apart from anti-worker attitudes and feelings, that Detroit piece demonstrates yet another truth. This is commonly overlooked, but the concept of middle class makes no sense at all. In this case this is apparent because it has been applied to the working class. So, is a GM machinist member of the working or middle class? He cannot be both. What hides behind this puzzle is the fact that the term 'the middle class' is drawn from the stratification rather than class vernacular. Middle, upper, lower classes are terms pertaining to stratification, for it is the latter only that is inherently hierarchical; by contrast, class structures are more complex sets of interrelationships. The petty bourgeois clas, for instance, may be in some respects 'higher', that is, privileged in relation to the working class, but this does not necessarily concerns some other things, e.g. income; an artisan may well be poorer than "the affluent worker" [such was even the title of once famous Lockwood's book on the subject]. There are many more important differences between stratification and class; strata are universal [in time and space], classes emerged only at some stage of historical development and, in theory, may disappear in the future, whereas income, lifestyle, and other suchlike distinctions would not. In a word, the word 'class' in juxtaposition with the word 'middle', or 'upper and 'lower', for that matter is an oxymoron. And politically and ideologically harmful at that. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 8:00 PM Subject: Marxism-Thaxis Digest, Vol 118, Issue 6 Send Marxism-Thaxis mailing list submissions to marxism-thaxis@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to marxism-thaxis-request@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu You can reach the person managing the list at marxism-thaxis-owner@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Marxism-Thaxis digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Wall Street Dictator to Detroit workers: you are dumb, rich, happy and lazy (c b) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 11:48:52 -0400 From: c b To: Forum for the discussion of theoretical issues raised by Karl Marx and the thinkers he inspired , marxist-debate , a-list , pen-l , lbo-talk Subject: [Marxism-Thaxis] Wall Street Dictator to Detroit workers: you are dumb, rich, happy and lazy Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I figured it out. First we were smart and hungry. That's how we got rich (relatively; "middle class"). When we got "rich". We got satisfied and happy as we should have. When we got happy, we got lazy. When we got lazy , we got dumb. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis End of Marxism-Thaxis Digest, Vol 118, Issue 6 ********************************************** ____________________________________________________________ Do THIS before eating carbs (every time) 1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar & decrease fat storage http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/524311b4e9d4b11b40e58st04vuc _______________________________________________ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 8:00 PM Subject: Marxism-Thaxis Digest, Vol 118, Issue 6

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I figured it out. First we were smart and hungry. That's how we got rich (relatively; "middle class"). When we got "rich". We got satisfied and happy as we should have. When we got happy, we got lazy. When we got lazy , we got dumb. ------------------------------ _____

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