Capitalism has an objective tendency toward socialism

Capitalism has an objective tendency toward socialism . AND Some of socialism bursts through the capitalist fetters still within predominantly capitalist relations.

As Marx says in Chapter 32 of Capital, capitalism evolves to socialism "with the inexorability of a law of Nature " , that is to say objectively.

"The capitalist mode of appropriation, the result of the capitalist mode of production, produces capitalist private property. This is the first negation of individual private property, as founded on the labour of the proprietor. But capitalist production begets, with the inexorability of a law of Nature, its own negation. It is the negation of negation. This does not re-establish private property for the producer, but gives him individual property based on the acquisition of the capitalist era: i.e., on cooperation and the possession in common of the land and of the means of production."

Lenin held that monopoly itself is a precursor of socialism still within capitalism.

Universal health care in socialism will be pretty much the same as in Sweden, Canada, France, Britain , even.

Socialism is both an overcoming and preservation of capitalism; sublation. Socialism preserves the rational aspects of capitalism; some reforms of capitalism are socialist sprouts growing up through crumbling capitalist concrete.

Or as Big Daddy Karl put it :"But capitalist production begets, with the inexorability of a law of Nature, its own negation. It is the negation of negation. "

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch32.htm "The theoretical conclusions of the Communists are in no way based on ideas or principles that have been invented, or discovered, by this or that would-be universal reformer. They merely express, in general terms, actual relations springing from an existing class struggle, from a historical movement going on under our very eyes. The abolition of existing property relations is not at all a distinctive feature of communism"

In Sweden, there has been historical movement going on before our very eyes. We claim it as evidence that capitalism has an objective tendency in rationally reforming itself to establish socialist institutions still within capitalism. Those trying to keep capitalism are going against the tide.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch02.htm

Also, those reforms were won by the working class, the proletariat. Not only the Swedish or French proletariat, but also the Soviet proletariat; many concessions were won for the proletariat in capitalist countries by mere existence of the Soviet Union. This is a sense in which The socialist revolution is a worldwide revolution; Soviet proletarian internationalism at your service Ignorant American proletariat, the New Deal got a boost from Soviet workers.

Vivian: " But the main things here in sweden is, are the people complaining their pol-eco system? Because if they are satisfied as of the moment, ... what is the purpose of discussing if sweden is in socialism or not?"

Capitalism has an objective tendency toward socialism. Some of socialism bursts through the capitalist fetters still within predominantly capitalist relations.

Lenin held that monopoly itself is a precursor of socialism still within capitalism.

Universal health care in socialism will be pretty much the same as in Sweden, Canada, France, Britain , even.

Socialism is both an overcoming and preservation of capitalism; sublation. Socialism preserves the rational aspects of capitalism; some reforms of capitalism are socialist sprouts growing up through crumbling capitalist concrete.

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