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What is preserved in socialism from monopoly capitalism quoting Marx
Date: April 1, 2014 at 4:48:12 PM EDT
what is preserved in socialism from monopoly capitalism quoting Marx
Charles Brown responding to David Nolan "Isn't the mutual ruin of the contending
classes necessary for communism to be implemented? Isn't communism a
classless state?" ////// I think we aim for it to be a lot more
one-sided in favor of the working class, not ruining the working
class, although the working class in taking state power "negates"
itself; not physically, but as a class. Because there is no more
capitalist class. It is "ruined". "The essential conditions for the
existence and for the sway of the bourgeois class is the formation and
augmentation of capital; the condition for capital is wage-labour.
Wage-labour rests exclusively on competition between the labourers.
The advance of industry, whose involuntary promoter is the
bourgeoisie, replaces the isolation of the labourers, due to
competition, by the revolutionary combination, due to association. The
development of Modern Industry, therefore, cuts from under its feet
the very foundation on which the bourgeoisie produces and appropriates
products. What the bourgeoisie therefore produces, above all, are its
own grave-diggers. Its fall and the victory of the proletariat are
equally inevitable. ....We have seen above, that the first step in the
revolution by the working class is to raise the proletariat to the
position of ruling class to win the battle of democracy.
The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degree,
all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralise all instruments of
production in the hands of the State, i.e., of the proletariat
organised as the ruling class; and to increase the total productive
forces as rapidly as possible.
Of course, in the beginning, this cannot be effected except by means
of despotic inroads on the rights of property, and on the conditions
of bourgeois production; by means of measures, therefore, which appear
economically insufficient and untenable, but which, in the course of
the movement, outstrip themselves, necessitate further inroads upon
the old social order, and are unavoidable as a means of entirely
revolutionising the mode of production. "
https://www.marxists.org/.../works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Manifesto of the Communist Party
www.marxists.org
Manifesto issued by Marx in 1848, regarded as founding documents of Communism
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Charles Brown David Nolan I think the west is eventually (in the next
generation) going to actually embrace socialism, and from there, it
will likely develop and become full-blown communism. That's my two
cents.//// I have substantial agreement with you on this. I think more
in terms of objective tendencies within capitalism to prepare the
ground for socialism, such as Lenin's reference to monopoly as
proto-socialism still within capitalist relations of production. (See
_Imperialism: the Highest Stage of Capitalism_) Also, things like
socialized medicine in Canada or Scandinavia or France. Healthcare
would be substantially the same in socialism, as far as I see.
Socialism is a supercession or sublation of capitalism, meaning it
overcomes and preserves capitalism. Some of what is capitalism now
will be preserved as socialism.
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Charles Brown "One capitalist always kills many. Hand in hand with
this centralization, or this expropriation of many capitalists by few,
develop, on an ever-extending scale, the cooperative form of the
labour process, the conscious technical application of science, the
methodical cultivation of the soil, the transformation of the
instruments of labour into instruments of labour only usable in
common, the economizing of all means of production by their use as
means of production of combined, socialized labour, the entanglement
of all peoples in the net of the world market, and with this, the
international character of the capitalistic regime. Along with the
constantly diminishing number of the magnates of capital, who usurp
and monopolize all advantages of this process of transformation, grows
the mass of misery, oppression, slavery, degradation, exploitation;
but with this too grows the revolt of the working class, a class
always increasing in numbers, and disciplined, united, organized by
the very mechanism of the process of capitalist production itself. The
monopoly of capital becomes a fetter upon the mode of production,
which has sprung up and flourished along with, and under it.
Centralization of the means of production and socialization of labour
at last reach a point where they become incompatible with their
capitalist integument. This integument is burst asunder. The knell of
capitalist private property sounds. The expropriators are
expropriated."///////// comment CB : "the cooperative form of the
labour process, the conscious technical application of science, the
methodical cultivation of the soil, the transformation of the
instruments of labour into instruments of labour only usable in
common, the economizing of all means of production by their use as
means of production of combined, socialized labour, the entanglement
of all peoples in the net of the world market, and with this, the
international character of the capitalistic regime..." and
"Centralization of the means of production and socialization of labour
" are all socialist forms developed in monopoly capitalism that are
preserved in some sense in socialism.
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