[Marxism-Thaxis] Human language gene's origin not as recent as previously thought
Charles Brown Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:24:39 -0800
This implies that language originated earlier in human
evolution than previously thought.
CB
http://www.babelsdawn.com/babels_dawn/
The Neanderthal genome includes the human version of the
FOXP2 gene. In my most recent post on that finding (see: Narrowing Down the
Suspects) I said:
The original dating of the appearance of the FOXP2 gene in its
human form put it between 200 and 100 thousand years ago.
Many arguments about the recency of language have claimed
authority based on that date, and now find their cards are very weak. ... In
November 2006 this blog reported on a paper presented at a conference in
Stellenbosch,
South Africa claiming that the original dating effort on FOXP2 had been grossly
in error and the true date of the human version of the gene was 1.8 to 1.9
million years ago. ... I have emailed the paper’s main author, Karl Diller, to
ask for an update on his work, but have
not yet had a response.
Now I have gotten a response. In a nutshell, he is sticking by his earlier
findings:
It is true that the [original] date for FOXP2 was widely cited before the
Neanderthal results, but I would say that hardly anyone believes anymore
that the FOXP2 mutations were recent. The accepted date for the common
ancestor with Neanderthals is ~660,000 years ago. We stand by the genomic
evidence and our date of 1.8 or 1.9 million years ago for the FOXP2
mutations.
More
Carl Zimmer reminds me of a letter Molecular Biology and
Evolution (here) arguing that the Neanderthal gene is a contaminant from
inbreeding with Homo sapiens. These things will be argued for some time, and as
I said in my
Narrowing Down the Suspects post:
... all dates on this gene are likely to be taken with several grains of salt
without multiple, independent confirmations.
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