Thursday, December 14, 2023

2016 exchange on trans

On May 24, 2016, William wrote: Marx was not published in scholarly journals nor Kautsky, but their serious theoretical works is fully referenced and has a lasting impact.

Yes, though I'm not counting on having as much impact as Marx. Marx's truly effective impact only came with the Russian revolution . At his death, his theory had not yet passed his own test of practice as he formulated it in Theses on Feuerbach.

My feeling is that to have a substantial impact you have to put in a lot of work.

I've been working on the critique of postmods for 25 years . So, it's accumulated a whole lot of work. I have lots of language and thorough arguments .

I must say that I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this . Women will straighten them out. Why do you think we have separate public bathrooms and showers in the first place ? Bet it wasn't men who demanded it. Women , in general are so caring, first thing they think of is what if I had a child like that ? So, they don't defend themselves . They'll even just start avoiding public facilities ; put the burden on themselves .

But wait until a Bruce Jenner still with a penis goes into a women's shower. Let's see what happens.

I am in sympathy with the general points you want to make, and indeed I would go further and actually attack trans sexual ideology outright on the grounds that it is immature, hedonistic individualism that can never constitute a socially progressive programme.

Ok definitely selfish.

But here the focus should be on the economic parasitism involved in elective transexuality. People with genetic disorders that render them sterile are a different issue,

I agree on genetic disorders ( hermaphroditism / inter"sex" ) are different from Bruce Jenner .

but men who voluntarily either undergo genital mutilation, or pretend to be women are shirking their social responsibility to raise children and actually taking a hyper masculine misogynist position.

Yes that was in one of the articles Claire Maud sent to the page

Heterosexual men on average do not do enough childcare, they should do more, but 'trans women' are men who chose a role which guarantees that they will never have to do unpaid work to look after their own children and are very unlikely to end up looking after anyone elses unpaid.

Yes

Somebody still has to look after children, so what is the consequence?

If society is to be reproduced it means an increase in single mothers bringing up children on their own without either the practical or the financial support of a man.

To present this kind of asocial hedonism as progressive is absurd.

Yes

We must abolish male supremacy not the basic gender binary. There still would be homosexual third gender .

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