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http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2008/2008-January/000141.html [lbo-talk] Creeping Fascism Charles Brown charlesb at cncl.ci.detroit.mi.us Thu Jan 3 08:37:37 PST 2008 Previous message: [lbo-talk] Allen, racism, fascism and beyond Next message: [lbo-talk] Creeping Fascism
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Doug Henwood wrote:
> In the economic sphere it's > corporatist and anti-market.
^^^
CB: Did the fascists shutdown stock exchanges ?
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Chip Berlet c.berlet at publiceye.org Thu Jan 3 08:38:28 PST 2008 Previous message: [lbo-talk] Creeping Fascism Next message: [lbo-talk] Creeping Fascism
That's like suggesting that since Bush has not officially suspended the Bill of Rights there is no anti-civil liberties issue in his administration. -cb (the other one) _______
_________________________ From: lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org on behalf of Charles Brown Sent: Thu 1/3/2008 11:37 AM To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Creeping Fascism Doug Henwood wrote: > In the economic sphere it's > corporatist and anti-market. ^^^ CB: Did the fascists shutdown stock exchanges ? ___________________________________ http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk Previous message: [lbo-talk] Creeping Fascism Next message: [lbo-talk] Creeping Fascism Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the lbo-talk mailing list:https://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/lbo-talk.html
http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2008/2008-January/000144.html [lbo-talk] Creeping Fascism Charles Brown charlesb at cncl.ci.detroit.mi.us Thu Jan 3 08:56:07 PST 2008 Previous message: [lbo-talk] Creeping Fascism Next message: [lbo-talk] Allen, racism, fascism and beyond Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Limit search to: Subject & Body Subject Author Sort by: Reverse Sort That' s "like suggesting" that even though Bush's administration has violated the international law originating in the punishment of the fascists , that the real danger of fascism is not from the Bush administration. Charles >>> "Chip Berlet"
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Charles Brown wrote: "CB: Maybe he was saying that, but in America , a fascist movement won't be with a pleasing, uplifting, hopefully entertaining figure, who is also Black with the politics of a typical Black American. That's the main political point. US fascism will be racist not anti-racist." Charles, Fascism was/is also sexist, yet plenty of high-profile women supported it. Female fascists endorsed essentially sexist policies from positions of relative power, though they were female. What's this deal Obama has with Social Security, essentially doing the alarmist thing about it needing a serious overhaul -- the type of program a lot of African-Americans have as a tenuous sort of lifeline to bare bones existence? I don't think Obama is a fascist. But I think he could (has?) pander to America's uglier instincts by adopting rhetoric and enacting policies that have the effect of hurting minorities more than others. Just like Rice or Powell can do that, or just like Thatcher, a woman, can support basically patriarchal policies. -B. Previous message: [lbo-talk] AFP: Lone trader responsible for $100 oil barrel price; did it to become famous Next message: [lbo-talk] EU rules threatening environmental progress Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the lbo-talk mailing list
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[lbo-talk] Allen, racism, fascism and beyond Charles Brown charlesb at cncl.ci.detroit.mi.us Thu Jan 3 12:47:03 PST 2008 Previous message: [lbo-talk] Allen, racism, fascism and beyond Next message: [lbo-talk] Allen, racism, fascism and beyond Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Search LBO-Talk Archives Limit search to: Subject & Body Subject Author Sort by: Reverse Sort >Don't forget WW I, when Eugene Debs was sentenced to 10 years in jail >(he served more than two before Harding commuted his sentence), >thousands were rounded up and deported, and The Nation was banned >from the mails. I was going to mention this. It's actually the best example. Think of the scariest aspects of late 2001 and 2002 and then multiply by 1,000. People were getting thrown in jail for making mildly critical comments about the war in casual conversation. We had freedom fries, and they had liberty cabbage, but the hysteria was so intense in that moment that you could get beaten up by a mob of respectable citizens just for using the word sauerkraut. A few years later everything was back to normal. Left-wing labor unions even organized a mildly successful third-party presidential bid by LaFollette in 1924. Seth ^^^^^ CB: And at the same time, the KKK was lynching and burning, and parading down Pennsylvania Avenue in D.C. Racist police brutality was rife. T'was US fascism for colored folks and radicals. Previous message: [lbo-talk] Allen, racism, fascism and beyond Next message: [lbo-talk] Allen, racism, fascism and beyond Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the lbo-talk mailing list
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